Saturday, 20 January 2018
quote [ Senators from both parties were scrambling for a new deal to reopen the government quickly, possibly just hours after the midnight deadline passed. ]
Soft paywall so article in extended.
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ScoobySnacks said @ 4:50pm GMT on 20th Jan
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1111 said @ 6:52pm GMT on 20th Jan
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midden said @ 8:10pm GMT on 20th Jan
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If only the government's budget and the economy were somehow linked in some reasonable way...
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rhesusmonkey said @ 6:56pm GMT on 21st Jan
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1111 said @ 10:47pm GMT on 21st Jan
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HoZay said @ 9:08am GMT on 20th Jan
Another day in the Trumpocalypse. Shocking, but not surprising.
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norok said @ 10:45am GMT on 20th Jan
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mechavolt said @ 3:52pm GMT on 20th Jan
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Yes, in the sense that Republicans are once again holding health insurance hostage to derail governance. 2013 was an attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act. 2018 was an attempt to pretend that CHIP is a partisan program in order to make the Democrats look callous.
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knumbknutz said[1] @ 4:52pm GMT on 20th Jan
I know dude - it always kind of makes me chuckle a bit when someone just drops a completely false equivalency in a thread as well.
If I was to pick a analogy to describe this, it would be something along the lines of - Imagine your apartment building is on fire because your neighbor (the crazy nazi skinhead-guy who wants to kick out all the Mexicans, Muslims, and immigrants from majority non-white nations, strip benefits from disabled veterans, take health care and food from hungry children, re-enslave blacks via a racist “justice” system, remove women from the workplace and strip away their rights, and lock up or flat-out murder gay people) purposefully lit the building on fire. That same neighbor also controls the fire extinguishers and sprinkler system but refuses to turn them on unless you agree to let harm come to all those communities first. Of course it is a moral conundrum for the person NOT in charge, but, the party responsible for creating the problem is quite clear about the what and why of things, and loudly shouts "HAH!! - SEE, THEY REFUSE TO WORK WITH US!!". Also, its fucked up how they are making a big show of acting like they are appalled over a partial shutdown of the "big-government" they are on record of saying they hate and need to save all of us from. |
norok said @ 7:06pm GMT on 20th Jan
Pretty sure I read in the article that the deal Trump was trying to reach would fund CHIP for 6 years but negotiations broke down over DACA and other things.
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rhesusmonkey said @ 6:49pm GMT on 21st Jan
... until Trump walk away from that position / deal with a Tweet, yes. I find it ironic that the GOP leadership bas to talk about "spinning their wheels" because they have no idea what kind of deal would actually get his approval.
the other lie trotted out frequently is the "60 Senators are needed" bs, they only need that to avoid a filibuster, and they have enough senators to pass a simple majority vote without Dem help. Arguing that any deal must be "filibuster-proof" just shows how little they want to negotiate, or air the discussion in public. |
ComposerNate said @ 9:50am GMT on 20th Jan
Everything's coming up Putin
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BUGGERLUGS123 said @ 11:37am GMT on 20th Jan
Indeed it is, just a matter of time now. I give trump till April at the most.
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HoZay said @ 12:12pm GMT on 20th Jan
To do what?
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ComposerNate said[2] @ 3:09pm GMT on 20th Jan
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End it all in a bunker holding his daughter, a pistol, and some pills.
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C18H27NO3 said @ 10:05pm GMT on 20th Jan
Can we leave the pills and the pistol out of it? They have no blame whatsoever. They have no culpability in "ending it all." Insinuating as much is filthy, disgusting, and completely unwarranted. All of our lives depend on it.
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ComposerNate said @ 11:44pm GMT on 20th Jan
Your comment makes me wonder what you read.
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ComposerNate said @ 1:12pm GMT on 20th Jan
People vote Republican to either start a war or shut down the government.
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knumbknutz said @ 3:57pm GMT on 20th Jan
You're looking at what remains of the Tea Party/Republican "red-tsunami." A bunch of trash talking wimps, who are nothing more than Paul Ryan's errand boys. (Disclaimer - Ryan himself is a lackey and errand boy of coal barons, petro-drillers and oil sheiks.)
Now (with a straight face even) they act like they are appalled over a partial shutdown of the "big-government" they are on record of saying they hate? |
ComposerNate said @ 4:33pm GMT on 20th Jan
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US voters who wish to either start a war or shut down the government vote Republican.
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Dienes said @ 3:01pm GMT on 20th Jan
How phenomenally and unsurprisingly shitty of them to hold the health of nearly 9 million children hostage in an attempt to get rid of DACA.
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Hugh E. said @ 4:55pm GMT on 20th Jan
For the longest time I truly thought not providing for CHIP was stupidity, ineptitude. Now it is clear it was political malice. #NotAllRazors
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bbqkink said @ 6:36pm GMT on 20th Jan
Lets not forget what this is all about..this is about DACA. The Chip program and a couple of more smaller programs were not reauthorized in order to make this hurt more...how could Democrats vote against the poor sick children even thought they have been screaming bloody murder for months to get them passed.
This is done to make it harder to stand up for DACA. |
knumbknutz said @ 3:15pm GMT on 20th Jan
His party controls the whole freaking government and they cannot pass their own bills?
He couldn't even get all of his own people to vote for that steaming pile of crap. |
bbqkink said @ 6:10pm GMT on 20th Jan
This was the first time they were forged to be bipartisan. Up until now they have done everything with strictly Republican votes through the reconciliation process...they are still trying to make it all work with just GOP votes...This is new territory and nobody knows what will happen...a lot of it depends on how the public reacts and how the media covers it...have a seat this may take a while.
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knumbknutz said[1] @ 5:29pm GMT on 22nd Jan
Hot off the press today - WH On GOP Lawmakers: ‘They’re Not Paying Attention’ To Trump’s Demands
Jeebus - I've seen better organized riots |
bbqkink said[1] @ 6:05pm GMT on 20th Jan
From what I see and this should be worrying to anybody who relies on government dollars or personnel. I don't see an end game..for either side.
This may last a while. |
HoZay said @ 1:08am GMT on 21st Jan
I might not get my nut-check? That will suck bigly.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 7:03pm GMT on 20th Jan
Does this mean we don't have to pay taxes anymore?
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Taxman said @ 11:18pm GMT on 20th Jan
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Think again.
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