Rep. Emanuel Cleaver
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Rep. Emanuel Cleaver Retweeted Kyle Griffin

Make no mistake, the President of the United States is waging a disinformation campaign against the American people. This is why a free press is essential to our democracy, why the President continues to attack it, and why real patriots must defend it.

This is a side note...

It seems the religious right has turned on Trump...at least in the short term.


Religious leaders unite against Trump’s cruel immigration policies
Even the president's most dedicated allies are condemning him.


United Methodist Church Slams Family Separations, Calls Trump Policy "Antithetical to the Teachings of Christ"

Southern Baptists Call Off the Culture War

America’s largest Protestant group moves to cut ties with the Republican Party and re-engage with mainstream culture.

Most current churches antithetical to the Teachings of Christ

If you ran a successful business you'd want to distance yourself from the socialist ravings of your schizophrenic hobo founder too.

looking forward to pics of trump after he is sent to jail just because they won't let him keep his wig

You Americans need to cut the head off of this snake of a government.
If this means a rocket launcher taking out both Trump and Pence so be it.

But fuck, all the gutless Republican Party needs to so is simply say "No" and legal or not getting rid of this.

No, a rocket launcher is not an option. That would answer Abraham Lincoln's query as to, "whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure," in the negative. The fact that we have had 45 peaceful transfers of power over 242 years is a profound achievement in human history. It would be tragic to let that record lapse, now. If the ideas this nation was founded on are to endure, then our government must be put back on the rails through the lawful action of the people and the institutions they embody.

The gutless Republicans can do it perfectly legally, if they so choose.

Democracy is still a new cult: it's not lost its superficial glamour yet. We'll give it another century, and have the best of them then.

Of course, that was written in the 1980s...

Barker is absolutely right. As much as representative democracy seems like a great idea, it will only be through a lens made of many centuries (if not millennia) that we will really know. It certainly won't be within our lifetimes.

New Report Shows Another Contact Between Trump Associates and a Russian Peddling Dirt On Clinton
Roger Stone claims it was an FBI set up.

But yet somehow the whole thing slipped his memory. And Trumps tweet is....well telling.


Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

WITCH HUNT! There was no Russian Collusion. Oh, I see, there was no Russian Collusion, so now they look for obstruction on the no Russian Collusion. The phony Russian Collusion was a made up Hoax. Too bad they didn’t look at Crooked Hillary like this. Double Standard!

Heh - I saw that presser a few days ago - it sort of prompted me to post the "in jail" post

I especially enjoyed the part where he blamed democrats for kids being ripped from their parents arms and sent to detention camps.

Thing is - it is starting to rip the R's apart to the point where even the bible-beaters are abandoning ship. The truly fucked up part is, that he could end it right now, but he won't because he is such a blatant narcissist, and ending it would require acknowledging fault, and he is clinically incapable of doing that ... so this putrid thing will continue to grind on, and on.

Of course, I am not forgetting the (*cough-impeachmentoffthetable *cough) ability of the dems to be the fucking dems, or the repugs gift to get right back in lockstep really quickly, so....

Ugh - Here I was hoping beyond hope before I clicked on this, that it was going to be anything but more of your standard pointing to irrelevant bullshit, in yet another one of your vain and transparent attempts to create a narrative that doesn’t exist (if I really gave 2 shits about what you really thought, I could point to a hundred different times you have done this childish stuff), but you are not really worth the keystrokes.

Unfortunately, it isn’t about facts with you, it’s about obscuring reality by throwing out red herrings. It’s a common tactic for you and one which most of us find no point in engaging with, because, when someone stoops to typing out the myriad of crap you have thrown out there in the past, it's just more to add on to the mountain of proof that there is just no need to take you seriously.

TL/DR - Snore... I can go to free republic or stormfront for this type of shit t if I were so inclined. I’m not. So, bye bye.

that the appointment of Robert Mueller was unconstitutional.

Stupid on its face.

In the United States, a special prosecutor (or special counsel or independent counsel or independent prosecutor) is a lawyer appointed to investigate, and potentially prosecute, a particular case of suspected wrongdoing for which a conflict of interest exists for the usual prosecuting authority.

Roughly twenty special prosecutors (called independent counsels after 1983) were appointed under the Ethics in Government Act and its reauthorizations[14] during the Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations. These include significant investigations into the Iran–Contra affair and the Whitewater controversy, the latter of which ultimately led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal. Numerous smaller investigations into cabinet secretaries for relatively minor offenses, such as drug use, were also carried out by special prosecutors during this period.

During the period 1992–1994 when the independent counsel provisions were not in force, Attorney General Janet Reno appointed Robert Fiske special counsel to investigate Whitewater. When the law was reauthorized in 1994, Reno invoked it to order an independent counsel be appointed to investigate Whitewater, and suggested Fiske continue in that role. Instead, Ken Starr was given the job by the three-judge panel. Starr resigned and was replaced by Robert Ray in 1999 just before the expiration of the independent counsel statute.[15] Ray formally concluded the Whitewater investigation in 2003.

Mueller isn't "a principal officer of the government", because he's not the head of an executive department.

In the Opinion Clause (Article II, section 2, clause 1) of the U.S. Constitution, heads of executive departments are referred to as "principal Officer in each of the executive Departments".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_executive_departments

That meaning is the ONLY usage in the Constitution or its amendments.

It's the same reason Nixon couldn't fire Archibald Cox. Will is either a fucking idiot or he's throwing up smoke, in which case he's collaborating with a traitor.

Well he is not an idiot. I think he is grasping for straws to put up a Republican counter argument. But it really does say something when one of the best minds on the right can only come up with was a vague constitutional argument on the process and nothing on the merits...never once denying guilt only saying because I am the leader of the executive branch the law doesn't affect me.

I would wonder is if following your cited examples were any actual indictments or convictions derived from these special counsels?

Completely irrelevant to the point they did have investigations and they were not unconstitutional.

And Star...The three-judge panel charged with administering the Independent Counsel Act later expanded the inquiry into numerous areas including suspected perjury about sexual activity that Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky. After several years of investigation, Starr filed the Starr Report, which alleged that Bill Clinton lied about the existence of the affair during a sworn deposition. The allegation led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton and the five-year suspension of Clinton's law license.

That must have been the best blow job ever. We're still talking about it twenty years later.

and everybody criticized her and called her fat, etc.

One thing you can say for Kate Moss, nobody ever accused her of blowing the potus.

I thought George Conway shot down that argument pretty definitively last week.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/terrible-arguments-against-constitutionality-mueller-investigation

It's a sideshow. Once you start trying to argue technicalities and working the refs, it's basically an admission of guilt. The president of the United States is an agent of an enemy state and a traitor. Is that really the hill these jackasses want to die on? George Will should be ashamed of himself.

GOP: it's not a crime if you don't face punishment