I have only one question?

After the Canadian special forces sniper pulled the trigger did he yell out "Sorry" or did he wait ten seconds

He didn't apologize until it was confirmed by command.

There's protocol for these things.

Canadian snipers are issued high-powered apology rifles.

Referred to as a "precise application of force"

Like acupuncture, but bigger. Much bigger.

'everything else aside...'
Just gonna say there's an awful lot of 'everything else' here.

Yes. Mainly the possibility of being shot at, having to lug 100lbs of kit in and out without being seen and calming yourself to the point where you can accurately hit the target.

There's a lot more than squeezing the trigger.

How would you respond if the tables were turned? Somehow I doubt you'd be up for a discussion on the technical merits if someone shot a western soldier on a base at home.

Considering all that our goose-stepping friend has inferred from my very unspecific comment, I'd guess such moral distinctions would be lost on him.

Just maybe my comment had nothing to do with politics and was more a commentary on celebrating a record that resulted in the death of a human being.
But maybe you lack the sensitivity and insight to see that, or just like to jump to conclusions about people based on things you don't even know about them.

Ever heard of a guy named Juba? Or a lady nick-named the Apache Woman?

I'm very impartial when it comes to matters of combat. Especially sniper warfare.

I'm all for ISIS being destroyed, but I can also appreciate it when my enemy pulls off an impressive feat of combat.

Something I know you and sanepride probably can't even comprehend let alone respect since neither of you have even been in a fistfight let alone a battlezone.

I'll proudly admit to never being in a fistfight or a battle zone because I'm not an idiot.

No one is fighting my right to exist.

Go go JTF2!

We do not endorse unsuitable activities or those which could cause potential harm or danger to spectators / animals. -- Guiness, What Makes a World Record

So yeah, pretty sure there's not a most impressive murder category.

Are you seriously telling me that 'Most Impressive Murder' wouldn't be something you'd enjoy reading every year?

The infographic is somewhat misleading. While the shooter's elevation must be calculated, it's the the curvature that matters, it's the earth's rotation...the coriolis effect.

A big part of it is also the region. Less things to account for when the area has an average humidity of %2 or so.

This just makes me want to play Sniper Elite 4 again.

Goddamn right I'm gonna make it political you fucking nazi asshole. You've made your views crystal clear. Everything you say here now seen through this vile lens. Go back to stormfront.

I support UBI.
I support the right of private individuals to own, operate, and manufacture firearms.
I support free but well regulated immigration.
I support LGBT rights across the board.
I support racial and financial equity.
I support atheism even though I don't agree with it.
I support free and open elections.
I support welfare rights for the disenfranchised.
I oppose unrestricted warfare abroad.
I oppose authoritarianism.
I oppose censorship.
I oppose unregulated capitalism.
I oppose violence against dissent.
I oppose privacy invasion by all interests, not just governmental.

But because this election has completely destroyed the notion of moderate republicanism in the minds of so many people, if I dare to speak out against the left, Hillary Clinton, or the MSM being completely untrustworthy, I'm lumped in with the same group of people as Heinrich Himler, Wilhelm Frick, and David Duke.

But I'll just label you a communist, and we can call it good.

"NY jew author says"

And they consistently deny drinking the blood of Christian babies when these protocols clearly lay it out.

Kinda proving the point there.

Not sure what point you're trying to make. I thought you were arguing you weren't an anti-Semite.

Yeah, not only an unapologetic anti-semite but also a whiny snowflake.
Maybe try taking responsibility for your own dumbass pronouncements instead of blaming everybody else. Or the Jews?

If I was truly anti-semitic then I would have absolutely no qualms in telling you so.

In fact I support Israel's COMPLETE annexation of Palestine. So technically I'm more of an Islamophobe in your narrow world-view than anything else.

It's quite telling though that you have such a chip on your shoulder if anyone even utters the word Jew.

You know Mossad itself hired a man by the name of Otto Skorzeny who was a completely unapologetic Nazi, right? A man who was also a completely unapologetic murderer and sociopath. If the most fervent of God's Chosen People can get by with letting Hitler's personal killing machine do their dirty work for them, then I think you can be man enough to see me halfway on why this website is nowhere near the bastion of discussion you fucks like to pretend it is.

Having been through Israel a few times I agree with the comment on making the Occupied territories just part of Israel. At least Gaza for sure, the WB seems to have become a little more self sufficient and a little less crazy than when Arafat was alive. The issue for many of the people within Israel with this approach is the "bomb in the womb" hyperbole, which can be paraphrased as Israel can be a Jewish State or a Democratic State, but not both, if they were to absorb the significant non-Jewish populations of the OTs.

The status quo is not sustainable though, and the proposed two-state solution won't work either, any more than the proposed separation of Quebec from Canada, or Texas from the US.

I've always found that a hilarious hypocrisy, that Israel can only be a democratic state if it denies the franchise to the majority of its subjects.

See, that's the thing, it's working as intended. Not all conversations are worth having, nor is everyone worth debating.

You have a reputation for stereotyping and quickly escalating any blow-back to ad hominem attacks. There are others, including a few on this thread, who have a reputation for the same.

I normally stop paying attention *to the thread* after the first signs of that (jew-x, snowflake, cocksucker). Usually I chalk it up to drunk posting, which I'm not innocent of. If I eventually get the feeling that's just a person's normal MO, I normally stop paying attention to the poster/commenter. I'm too damn old to read and respond to drunk rants anymore.

The karma system itself has nothing to do with that. I personally haven't downmodded any of the comments on this post, but that's mostly because I haven't had any beer in a few days.

Drunk-posted or not, there's a definite difference between a general ad-hominem and actual hate-speech slurs, uttered to make a political point. This is the line Ussmak has crossed. He could have issued a mea-culpa, offered an excuse for being drunk or overly worked-up or whatever. Instead he's doubled-down, even emphasized the sentiment. Folks here can mod this kind of thing as they see fit, but I for one refuse to let it stand. The beauty of unfettered free speech is it not only allows a forum for hate speech, but it also allows us to shout it down.

It's difficult to shout down a troll. Which is another charm of the karma system: it's a volume knob, and those who don't know how to play well with others get turned down sooner or later. And another reason I like the system is that it's not as final as a ban, so offenders can rehabilitate themselves at any time if they so desire.

Rehabs happened occasionally on old SE (eg madpride).

For comparison, another (job-oriented) forum I occasionally post on, until recently had no comment-modding system at all, and no way to 'ignore' commenters. It could become a vicious free-for-all on political threads.

A few months ago, 'liking' comments came online, along with an 'ignore' feature. The 'liking' feature is one step above worthless. The 'ignore' feature has been worth its weight in gold. The downside to it, though, is that there is zero chance of rehab in such a system; the ignored commenters and their comments just disappear.

What I'm trying to say is that SE's karma system is pretty damn good in a lot of ways.

I'm fine with the karma system (I can say from my lofty #3 ranking), and I don't even mind the trolls so much.
It's mainly this guy who overtly blames the Jews his political frustrations....
As I recall Sensible Election had a '-1 You're a Nazi' mod. Sure would be handy to have that option now. Not holding out much hope of 'rehab', despite my even offering him an easy out.

Personally, I'd like the ability to disable the small font/hiding for downmodded comments; I don't have delicate eyeballs that need protecting from salty talk.

For me, the value of the karma system is that people can give social feedback on posts or comments without filling the thread with replies that don't contribute to the conversation. It's an elegant solution to the problem you used to get on message boards where you'd click on a thread with a hundred comments expecting to read a lively discussion only to find it was one guy cracking a joke and 99 people people going "haha" or "LOL".

You have a point. The trick is not to take it personally (which is impossible when drunk or stoned). Just because the font gets littler and littler, or goes away at '5' and I have to give it a resurrection click, doesn't prevent me from reading the comment. And checking to see who downmodded it is its own entertainment.

Also: for the vast majority of 'resurrection click' comments, the reason is obvious: a reasoned argument or observation has degenerated into vapid name-calling. If the comment has been down-modded less than 5, there's still a good chance it's just a run-of-the-mill argument worth a read. So in that respect, the karma system does have value for me.

No, I think he means hiring actual Nazis to kill Palestinians.

I'm told I deserve to be killed for daring to argue with the group think

I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $200, Alex.

I'll happily admit to downmodding you solely because you've demonstrated, repeatedly now, that you're an anti-semitic fuckhead. Once you've crossed that line there's nothing to debate. Even your lame attempts to justify 'NY Jew author' just reinforce your bias. Every single comment you make here from now on is contaminated by this stench.

That's what it's for. Again, not everything or everyone is worth debating. Some things deserve a bludgeon.

And while I fundamentally disagree with your suggestion of literally punching nazis (if that's actually what you're advocating), it's totally appropriate to 'punch' them with downmods and insults.

Only as a last resort. Those who prevent the peaceful lynching of Nazis make the violent lynching of Nazis inevitable.