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Sunday, 27 June 2021
quote [ The combination of consumer tastes, low dollar value per volume building components, and the complexity of buildings inhibit efforts to scale.
Prefabbing construction is almost always more expensive than comparable site-built construction. High overhead, capital intensity, and high transportation costs eat away at cost savings. Adoption rates of new technologies are painfully slow. On-site integration can be challenging. ]
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dolemite said @ 11:38pm GMT on 27th June
While this article raises good points about shipping density that I wouldn't have considered otherwise, I do have an issue to raise. Somebody who knows more about construction and engineering please correct me...but:
Doesn't the fact that this article only compares stick-built homes (obsolete garbage) with post and beam homes (utterly archaic garbage) make this article seem like... oh, I dunno, a steaming pile of false-dichtomizing status-quo-rationalizing dogshit? Where are the SIP and ICF options for comparison? This article is current enough to include Pex plumbing but it chooses to ignore potentially disruptive technologies like SIPs which outperform stick homes in every metric?
If I wanted to spend my entire life taking care of an increasingly sagging, squeaking, leaking, drafty, unstable bundle of sticks temporarily tacked together with up-sized pushpins, or if I was turned on by the increased risk of of mold exposure/house-fire/pest-intrusion/structural-collapse then I already know that there are multitudes of hammer-swinging semi-literates nearby willing to build me a stick house.
But I don't want those things. Ever again. My last house is gonna be SIP-based or I'm gonna build around a couple of shipping containers. Whichever way I go the house going to rest on screw piles not a concrete foundation.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
dolemite said @ 11:42pm GMT on 27th June
While this article raises good points about shipping density that I wouldn't have considered otherwise, I do have an issue to raise. Somebody who knows more about construction and engineering please correct me...but:
Doesn't the fact that this article only compares stick-built homes (obsolete garbage) with post and beam homes (utterly archaic garbage) make this article seem like... oh, I dunno, a steaming pile of false-dichtomizing status-quo-rationalizing dogshit? Where are the SIP and ICF options for comparison? This article is current enough to include Pex plumbing but it chooses to ignore potentially disruptive technologies like SIPs which outperform stick homes in every metric?
If I wanted to spend my entire life taking care of an increasingly sagging, squeaking, leaking, drafty, unstable bundle of sticks temporarily tacked together with up-sized pushpins, or if I was turned on by the increased risk of of mold exposure/house-fire/pest-intrusion/structural-collapse then I already know that there are multitudes of hammer-swinging semi-literates nearby willing to build me a stick house.
But I don't want those things. Ever again. My last house is gonna be SIP-based or I'm gonna build around a couple of shipping containers. Whichever way I go the house is going to rest on screw piles not a concrete foundation.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
P.S. If any of you are genuinely turned on by stick-built construction I wasn't trying to kink-shame anyone.
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dolemite said @ 11:38pm GMT on 27th June
While this article raises good points about shipping density that I wouldn't have considered otherwise, I do have an issue to raise. Somebody who knows more about construction and engineering please correct me...but:
Doesn't the fact that this article only compares stick-built homes (obsolete garbage) with post and beam homes (utterly archaic garbage) make this article seem like... oh, I dunno, a steaming pile of false-dichtomizing status-quo-rationalizing dogshit? Where are the SIP and ICF options for comparison? This article is current enough to include Pex plumbing but it chooses to ignore potentially disruptive technologies like SIPs which outperform stick homes in every metric?
If I wanted to spend my entire life taking care of an increasingly sagging, squeaking, leaking, drafty, unstable bundle of sticks temporarily tacked together with up-sized pushpins, or if I was turned on by the increased risk of of mold exposure/house-fire/pest-intrusion/structural-collapse then I already know that there are multitudes of hammer-swinging semi-literates nearby willing to build me a stick house.
But I don't want those things. Ever again. My last house is gonna be SIP-based or I'm gonna build around a couple of shipping containers. Whichever way I go the house is going to rest on screw piles not a concrete foundation.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
P.S. If any of you are genuinely turned on by stick-built construction I wasn't trying to kink-shame anyone.
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