Monday, 1 August 2016

SE v2 Closed BETA

quote [ If you're not a subscriber the link is just going to take you back to the main site for now. Patience, please. ]

I've been working on an SE v2 alpha (well this is the 4th one) for quite a while now and I think I've finally got it functional enough that it's worth opening up to subscribers for Beta testing. There's a still a ton of work to be done on both in the design and on the server side, but it is usable and I figured this would a be a good stage to open it up to other eyes and get some constructive feedback. Constructive feedback, please. If all you've got is complaints 'because it's different' I will be more than happy to send you a homemade copy of my cock for you go to fuck yourself with. Upon payment, of course. ;)

Screenshots, features, and the future in the extended.

What works?
  • Commenting
  • Modding
  • Posting(Mostly)
  • Notifications(Mostly)
  • Message alerts and dropdown (Mostly)


  • What doesn't work? The rest ;)
    Comment editing. I will probably tackle that next.
    Toolbar for comments, that's coming after editing.
    Notifications don't take you directly to the comment yet. Working on that.
    Section/Score Filtering
    Search
    Profile
    Watchlists
    Who's Online
    Streaks Notification on the sidebar
    Messages
    Admin Stuff
    Support
    Rank page
    The shoutbox posts, but doesn't clear the form after use. I know why, can't fix it without being a pain in the ass. Deal with it for the time being.

    Basically, if it doesn't work, it will just redirect you back to the functional version on the old site. No harm, no foul. This is just something to give y'all an idea of where I'm at with V2 and the direction I'm heading. There is seriously so much freaking left to do.

    It is not optimized for mobile. It works in mobile, but it's clunky. Once I've gotten this to a stable place I'll make a streamlined mobile version. After that we can talk about a possible mobile app and an alternate theme for the site that breaks out of the classic look I've mostly adopted here.

    Screenshots for non-subscribers.
    The Main Page, it's now infinite scroll. Works for the most part. As long as you scroll down, it will keep loading posts.


    The Post page demonstrating the notifications dropdown. Messaging dropdown is similar but links to messages on the old site for now.


    The Comments section demonstrating Moderation popups. Just hover a comment or posts score and a little box will pop up and show you who modded what. Mostly works. :)


    The Make a Posting page. All dynamic, all one page. But I've split everything up into sections Post Details in one section, Thumbnail in another, etc.


    As I've said there is still a lot left to do, this is far from a final version, but I think so far it's pretty sweet. Feel free to drop thoughts, bugs, etc in this thread for time being.
    [SFW] [Meta SE] [+10 Interesting]
    [by steele@2:40pmGMT]

    Comments

    XregnaR said @ 2:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Well I thought I was a subscriber, but it still kicks me back to the default.
    mechanical contrivance said @ 3:30pm GMT on 1st Aug
    There's no letter next to your name, so apparently, you're not.
    conception said @ 3:52pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 laz0r]
    Now you should be a for a month!
    XregnaR said @ 3:59pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Thank you kind stranger!
    conception said @ 4:30pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I tried! ;)
    steele said @ 4:08pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    You've been gifted silver which is different than the monthly subscribers I'm using as my beta testers for the time being. Over time I'll open it up to more and more people.
    Jodan said @ 3:31pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Steele, I'm afraid.
    steele said @ 4:10pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Good]
    It's probably not going to be okay, but at least there might be porn.
    Jodan said @ 4:49pm GMT on 1st Aug
    a disaster with porn is not a disaster Steele. You have allayed all my fears and can now willingly accept my fate.
    conception said @ 3:52pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Is there a RFE list/tracker someplace to add ideas to?
    steele said @ 4:03pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Just here for now.
    conception said @ 4:22pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:2]
    Would still like to be able to mod without clicking into the comments. I feel that I would mod a lot more as often I'll read something but either it won't have any comments or just not something I want to comment on and won't click in. It's lazy, sure, but extra clicks are extra clicks.

    Otherwise, I like the direction it's going!
    steele said @ 4:42pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Word. That is something I'm considering. Right now I'm mostly trying to create a copy of our current setup with updated code. My first few alphas were these extravagant buzzfeed-ish like sites that I eventually realized just was not going to fly around here. But we shall move forward! ;)
    arrowhen said @ 4:28pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Looks all fucky on mobile, but you already know that. ;) Looking forward to poking around and breaking shit on desktop when I get home from work.
    steele said @ 4:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
    And break shit you shall ;)
    XregnaR said @ 5:33pm GMT on 1st Aug
    It would seem our super secret neg rally point is not an option?
    steele said @ 6:11pm GMT on 1st Aug
    When's the last time it was?
    XregnaR said @ 6:29pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I just went to 0, then clicked my link to The End. Neither works in the beta, only in prod.
    steele said @ 6:30pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Funny]
    You shouldn't even be able to get to the beta. :-/ Found a bug!
    XregnaR said[1] @ 6:31pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Funsightful]
    If you call it a feature you can charge twice the normal rate.

    Edit-

    Damn you fixed that quick ;-)
    kylemcbitch said @ 6:05pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Is sorting by comments still an option on the main page?
    steele said @ 6:11pm GMT on 1st Aug
    It will be! Right now the main page is just a vanilla query sorted by most recent post, i'll be adding the options for filtering and sorting in due time.
    XregnaR said @ 6:32pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Rank page link is borked.
    steele said @ 6:39pm GMT on 1st Aug
    That it is :)
    snagUber said @ 6:35pm GMT on 1st Aug
    So far browsing with an android phone has proven being a better experience than SE 1.0 (or was it still a beta?).
    steele said @ 6:42pm GMT on 1st Aug
    The navbar and dropdowns look like shit, but the rest autoadjusts for mobile, for the most part. It's pretty sweet. But I don't want to mess around with the mobile for ever and ever when there's so much more to do.
    snagUber said @ 6:46pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Funny]
    It's working. Do not touch a thing!
    cb361 said @ 6:37pm GMT on 1st Aug
    If all you've got is complaints I will be more than happy to send you a homemade copy of my cock for you go to fuck yourself with.

    I'm pretty sure that's how Matt started out. Started...
    steele said @ 6:40pm GMT on 1st Aug
    So that's how he afforded all that Apple swag.
    cakkafracle said @ 6:48pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I'd like in.
    cakkafracle said @ 6:51pm GMT on 1st Aug
    actually maybe not, since "I could have done it better" is already on the tip of my tongue, don't give me the opportunity
    steele said @ 6:53pm GMT on 1st Aug
    It's going to be subscriber only for a while anyway. I need to see how much stress all these poll queries put on the database. I'm caching a lot of it though, so I have high hopes.
    cakkafracle said[1] @ 9:37pm GMT on 1st Aug
    pretty fun hey? I've been involved with a project recently (shameless plug) with rapid output of new features, with HotJar as our feedback too. immediate responses to change is interesting.
    steele said @ 11:06pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Indeed.
    juiceboxxx said @ 6:48pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Funny]
    But it's different than what I'm used to! ;-)
    steele said @ 6:54pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Good]
    Yeah, I'll just put it on your tab. :D
    juiceboxxx said @ 2:44pm GMT on 9th Aug [Score:1 Classy Pr0n]
    I was thinking of someplace else ;-)
    HoZay said @ 7:05pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:2 Hot Pr0n]
    Gentrification is OK, up to a point. Just don't plaster over the glory hole.
    steele said @ 7:08pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
    I'm trying to make new ones! 75% less splinters!
    mechavolt said @ 7:44pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 laz0r]
    Testing moderating and replying at the same time.
    mechavolt said @ 7:45pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 laz0r]
    THANK YOU FOR THIS, STEELE
    steele said @ 8:20pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Right? Pretty smooth when it works :D
    arrowhen said @ 11:43pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Does it work?
    arrowhen said @ 11:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Hrm.
    steele said @ 12:04am GMT on 2nd Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    I just realized the time zones are way off, aren't they?
    steele said @ 12:05am GMT on 2nd Aug
    yup.
    steele said @ 12:21am GMT on 2nd Aug
    test.
    steele said @ 12:21am GMT on 2nd Aug
    noice.
    arrowhen said @ 12:28am GMT on 2nd Aug
    Heh, I never realized they ever weren't way off. They were broken for so long on the old site that I never even paid attention to them on the new one.
    steele said @ 12:33am GMT on 2nd Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    One of the first things I fixed when I brought the endowment site online. I was always hated that on the old site.
    JWWargo said @ 10:16pm GMT on 9th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    FYI: Hawaii has no DST, so right now I'm set to Samoan time to get the correct hour. (This is for current SE, I cannot test on beta as I am a friendly leech still)
    steele said @ 10:42pm GMT on 9th Aug
    Hmm, I would've thought that the php would naturally account for that. I'll keep that in mind going forward. Thank you.
    mechavolt said @ 7:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
    2 things:

    1) I like the changes. It's different, but an improvement. At least on Chrome.
    2) On the new beta, I can't see people's subscriber status next to their name anymore.
    3) The column of posts if much further to the right now. Still not centered, but it's weird having all of that empty space on the left side.
    4) Yes, I know I said 2 things.
    mechavolt said @ 7:45pm GMT on 1st Aug
    5) I can't figure out how to edit anymore.
    6) Those handy auto-tag buttons are gone, and I'm too lazy to remember offhand how to link to other users, do YouTube videos, and such.
    mechavolt said @ 7:47pm GMT on 1st Aug
    7) Replying a second time to my parent comment causes the comment box to display on top of the comment below, causing some weird visual grossness.
    mechavolt said @ 7:47pm GMT on 1st Aug
    But that only happened once.
    steele said @ 8:28pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Shoot, this comment didn't show up in my notifications.

    2. Yeah, that will be coming back.
    3. Working on that too, there's a gap that I'm not sure where it's coming from.
    5. Editing will be another week or so along with the handy autotag tool bar.

    I'm heading out to the woods tomorrow for a week break, but I'll be getting right into the thick of when I get back.
    notasockofsteele said @ 8:33pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Does this?
    mechavolt said @ 10:47pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    8) When I click on a post or comments, it no longer automatically opens in a new tab.
    steele said @ 11:38pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I think I've got that taken care of.
    steele said @ 11:42pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]
    Tho you may want to turn it off for opening comments in a new window, because I don't know how your system or mine will respond when you've got 10 tabs attempting to poll the server at a time. I'm going to work on some background handling for that involving caching in the local storage but for the time being things might get messy ;)
    notasockofsteele said @ 8:29pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:-1 Bad Pr0n]
    This notifies me, right?
    notasockofsteele said @ 8:33pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:-1 Bad Pr0n]
    It did not.
    steele said @ 12:18am GMT on 2nd Aug [Score:-1]
    test
    notasockofsteele said @ 8:37pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Does this?
    steele said @ 8:37pm GMT on 1st Aug
    That's better.
    rndmnmbr said @ 8:57pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Come, my free user comrades, let us overthrow the subscriber bourgeois and ensure free distribution of the beta to ALL the proletariat!

    (Much love, steele, but regretfully, when it comes down to voting with my dollars, I still gotta vote for my rent first. :) I'll wait patiently for the open beta.)
    steele said @ 8:59pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I'm using the District of Columbia access model! Don't worry I'm aware of it and I'm considering alternatives. Give me time.
    rndmnmbr said @ 9:06pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Funsightful]
    Hey, it's okay. I wouldn't want to jump to an open beta first either, and watch the unwashed hordes descend upon my virginal site either. I'd rather break her in easy her first time, leave her happy and satisfied and enjoying the afterglow, rather than skip straight to sodomy that leaves her asshole flapping like the flags at the 50 yard line.
    rndmnmbr said[1] @ 9:17pm GMT on 1st Aug
    In addendum, though: I'm confidant that she'll grow into a cock-hungry bitch that will insist I and a thousand others all cram our dongs in her various holes at the same time and fill her with a creamy filling like a human-sized Twinkie.

    SE: you cock-hungry bitch, you.
    steele said @ 11:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Now it's getting creepy ;)
    captainstubing said @ 9:08pm GMT on 1st Aug
    I WANT MY STEELE COCK!

    Looks really good!!
    steele said @ 9:10pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Thank you!
    Mythtyn said @ 11:18pm GMT on 1st Aug
    The continual scroll of posts and mouseover detail of mods are great!
    steele said @ 11:39pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Thank you! I'm not doing any pooling on the entries yet so I can't guarantee that won't piss your memory off if you scroll forever ;)
    arrowhen said @ 11:35pm GMT on 1st Aug
    Is the "admin -> comments" view or something like it going to be in SE 2.0? I check it like 20 times a day and would be sad to see it go away.
    steele said @ 11:37pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Good]
    Yes it will. Give me time on that.
    arrowhen said @ 12:25am GMT on 2nd Aug
    I can't get it to happen consistently, but fairly often if my mouse cursor passes quickly over the [Score:X XXXX] in a comment, the moderation detail popup will appear and stick open until I mouseover over the score text again. When I do that, the popup will disappear and then reappear, remaining up until I move my cursor off the text.

    Also, it's hard to tell, but it seems like rapidly flicking the cursor across the score text makes the popup blink in and out of existence instantly, rather than fading in the way it does when you hover over the text. Maybe the two are related?
    arrowhen said[1] @ 12:31am GMT on 2nd Aug
    steele said @ 12:34am GMT on 2nd Aug
    Yeah, that's gonna take me a little bit to figure out. I am aware of it.
    arrowhen said @ 12:33am GMT on 2nd Aug
    arrowhen said @ 12:35am GMT on 2nd Aug
    This image shows up like twice as big here as on the non-beta page.
    steele said @ 12:39am GMT on 2nd Aug [Score:1 Informative]
    All images automatically adjust to the width of the comment box, height adjusts accordingly. Part of mobile adjustment compromise and so don't have the whole 'oops sorry about that giant image' thing going down.
    arrowhen said @ 12:43am GMT on 2nd Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
    That's pretty handy, actually.
    arrowhen said @ 12:38am GMT on 2nd Aug
    steele said @ 12:39am GMT on 2nd Aug
    a.k.a. just now ;)
    thepublicone said @ 12:02am GMT on 3rd Aug
    As long as it works, I don't care what it looks like; its not like the original- or the last version- was anything special to look at, but it still delivered.
    conception said @ 5:38pm GMT on 5th Aug
    Random usability suggestion. Mods right now are +1 something or -1 something... maybe make them like Funny (+1) and color them green so that you can use keyboard shortcuts on the select menus. I find myself scrolling through the mod list looking for the one I want. And having them all start with +/-1 isn't great UX. You could even probably drop the numbers altogether since we don't do anything but increments of 1.
    steele said @ 12:24am GMT on 8th Aug
    That is a bit more complicated. I am thinking over different modding systems and interfaces. We shall see.
    b said @ 12:02am GMT on 8th Aug
    Will we be able to use thumbs of any size when we post? I can't stand the limits we have now. I don't have the time or capacity at work to fiddle with resizing thumbs and it's so annoying to find the perfect thumb and then find out it's too big.
    arrowhen said @ 12:08am GMT on 8th Aug
    If you use the "Upload thumbnail image from URL" option, you can use whatever size thumb you want and it'll automatically resize it for you. I can't even remember the last time I resized a thumb manually.
    b said @ 2:38pm GMT on 8th Aug
    Well, colour me ignorant. I guess it speaks to how often I post.
    HoZay said @ 6:38pm GMT on 8th Aug
    But now you'll have all that extra time.
    steele said @ 12:22am GMT on 8th Aug [Score:1 Good]
    Yeah, as arrowhen mentioned that's a feature I added, just need to convert the older upload code. I'll get it, I swear ;)
    steele said @ 8:49pm GMT on 14th Aug
    I've still got to pretty it up a bit but I've added the ability to sort the frontpage post stream. I'll be adding advanced features to that, making it better looking, and saving the setting, but for now it works :D

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