Friday, 2 February 2018

The Damn Memo is Finally Here

quote [ The Trump administration, with the help of Republicans in Congress, have for weeks been hyping up an internal House memo as the new Pentagon Papers. That memo was finally made public on Friday ]

This has been described as a wet fart. Seems insulting to wet farts if you ask me.
Embedded copy of the memo in the linked article.

Representative Devin Nunes, of California, and his conservative allies had strongly implied that the memo would offer incontrovertible proof of the intelligence community’s bias against President Donald Trump in investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. In the past few days, however, Republicans have walked back that assertion, apparently after reading the memo for themselves.

On Friday, Trump declassified the memo.
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kylemcbitch said @ 10:11pm GMT on 2nd February
It's been released and Trump has said to the question "Does this mean you will fire Rosenstien?":

"You figure it out."

What an amazing man-baby.

Anyway, I just read the memo in full. Which you can do in 10 minutes because it's basically 3 and a half pages long.

Here are the immediate problems I see:

Problem 1:

The memo states that the Steele Dossier was used to investigate Carter Page. This started in 2016. However, Page has been under investigation since 2013 for suspected compromise by Russian intelligence.

Problem 2:

It claims that Steele is unreliable, not because his information is wrong, but because he has talked to the media before.

Problem 3:

It claims that FBI agent Strzok (the person at the center of the text-message scandal) had a clear bias in favor of Clinton, and that this bias led him to open the FBI counterintelligence operation into Page and Papadopoulos.

This despite the fact that Strzok tried to reopen the Clinton email investigation a week before the 2016 election.

Which is what many people credit to Trump winning the election.

Problem 4:

GOP claims that the FBI was targeting Trump. But Trump and his team have stated many times that Carter Page was only a low level volunteer... Why would investigating him have any correlation to Trump?

Problem 5:

A GOP group initially contracted out Fusion GPS who then contracted Steele.

Problem 6:

The biggest paragraph is the last one. Basically confirmed the investigation started with Papadopoulus and the Australians, NOT Carter Page. So they inadvertently confirmed something (the NYT story) they claimed was fake news, and have undermined the central claim of this memo.

Clearly, it's bullshit. So much so, it refutes itself. However, that doesn't matter, watch. It will still be used to fire Rosenstein and people on the Right who don't bother reading it or researching the issue will just take it and run.

All this right before Super Bowl weekend.

This is how our republic dies, then?


kylemcbitch said @ 10:27pm GMT on 2nd February
It's been released and Trump has said to the question "Does this mean you will fire Rosenstien?":

"You figure it out."

What an amazing man-baby.

Anyway, I just read the memo in full. Which you can do in 10 minutes because it's basically 3 and a half pages long.

Here are the immediate problems I see:

Problem 1:

The memo states that the Steele Dossier was used to investigate Carter Page. This started in 2016. However, Page has been under investigation since 2013 for suspected compromise by Russian intelligence.

Problem 2:

It claims that Steele is unreliable, not because his information is wrong, but because he has talked to the media before.

Problem 3:

It claims that FBI agent Strzok (the person at the center of the text-message scandal) had a clear bias in favor of Clinton, and that this bias led him to open the FBI counterintelligence operation into Page and Papadopoulos.

This despite the fact that Strzok tried to reopen the Clinton email investigation a week before the 2016 election.

Which is what many people credit to Trump winning the election.

Problem 4:

GOP claims that the FBI was targeting Trump. But Trump and his team have stated many times that Carter Page was only a low level volunteer... Why would investigating him have any correlation to Trump?

Problem 5:

A GOP group initially contracted out Fusion GPS who then contracted Steele.

Problem 6:

The biggest paragraph is the last one. Basically confirmed the investigation started with Papadopoulus and the Australians, NOT Carter Page. So they inadvertently confirmed something (the NYT story) they claimed was fake news, and have undermined the central claim of this memo.

Clearly, it's bullshit. So much so, it refutes itself. However, that doesn't matter, watch. It will still be used to fire Rosenstein and people on the Right who don't bother reading it or researching the issue will just take it and run.

All this right before Super Bowl weekend.

This is how our republic dies, then?

Edit: Also, it should be noted that this memo has another very problematic issue:

Trump doesn't have access to what is being investigated by Mueller, because he is the subject of that investigation. This memo helps with an alibi or hiding evidence since the subject of the investigation now knows the details of said investigation.



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kylemcbitch said @ 10:11pm GMT on 2nd February [Score:1 Original]
It's been released and Trump has said to the question "Does this mean you will fire Rosenstien?":

"You figure it out."

What an amazing man-baby.

Anyway, I just read the memo in full. Which you can do in 10 minutes because it's basically 3 and a half pages long.

Here are the immediate problems I see:

Problem 1:

The memo states that the Steele Dossier was used to investigate Carter Page. This started in 2016. However, Page has been under investigation since 2013 for suspected compromise by Russian intelligence.

Problem 2:

It claims that Steele is unreliable, not because his information is wrong, but because he has talked to the media before.

Problem 3:

It claims that FBI agent Strzok (the person at the center of the text-message scandal) had a clear bias in favor of Clinton, and that this bias led him to open the FBI counterintelligence operation into Page and Papadopoulos.

This despite the fact that Strzok tried to reopen the Clinton email investigation a week before the 2016 election.

Which is what many people credit to Trump winning the election.

Problem 4:

GOP claims that the FBI was targeting Trump. But Trump and his team have stated many times that Carter Page was only a low level volunteer... Why would investigating him have any correlation to Trump?

Problem 5:

A GOP group initially contracted out Fusion GPS who then contracted Steele.

Problem 6:

The biggest paragraph is the last one. Basically confirmed the investigation started with Papadopoulus and the Australians, NOT Carter Page. So they inadvertently confirmed something (the NYT story) they claimed was fake news, and have undermined the central claim of this memo.

Clearly, it's bullshit. So much so, it refutes itself. However, that doesn't matter, watch. It will still be used to fire Rosenstein and people on the Right who don't bother reading it or researching the issue will just take it and run.

All this right before Super Bowl weekend.

This is how our republic dies, then?

Edit: Also, it should be noted that this memo has another very problematic issue:

Trump doesn't have access to what is being investigated by Mueller, because he is the subject of that investigation. This memo helps with an alibi or hiding evidence since the subject of the investigation now knows the details of said investigation.




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