Friday, 23 June 2017
quote [ The show, which stars two women of color, won’t début until the fall, but already its trailer is raising nativist hackles. ]
Full New Yorker article:
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knumbknutz said @ 2:45pm GMT on 24th Jun
[Score:1 Insightful]
Sounds like they just have a case of bitter-dregs
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Onix said @ 8:44pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I am really convinced that ignorance fuels racism.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 8:51pm GMT on 23rd Jun
And sometimes that ignorance is willful.
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sanepride said @ 9:01pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Well that's true to a certain extent, but there are plenty of other factors. Modern racism in the west is a manifestation of tribalism, fueled by economic pressures and especially in the case of the so-called 'alt-right', resentment over perceived threats to traditional entitlement and privilege. I think as much as ignorance there's a lot of deep-rooted insecurity at play.
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tigsnort said @ 9:07pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Slavery has a bit to do with it. Racism is a learned behavior, handed down through generations.
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sanepride said @ 10:35pm GMT on 23rd Jun
In some cases yeah, it's old habits. In others I think it's a newer phenomenon. Also a lot of suppressed views bubbling to the surface with the perceived approval of the current administration.
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damnit said @ 10:56pm GMT on 23rd Jun
The newer phenomenon being Barack Obama became president and the alt-white's existential dread.
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sanepride said[1] @ 11:08pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Yeah, I think that's a factor. That 'existential dread' you refer to is pretty much the same as what I referred to as 'perceived threats to traditional entitlement and privilege' and 'deep-rooted insecurity'.
But it's not just Obama (though he was certainly a highly visible target), but the idea of a resurgent 'other', and greater attention being paid to more ethnically diverse urban populace at the expense of the whiter rural folk, shepherded by an insulated urban elite (or as Ussmak would call them, 'NY jew authors'). And now of course we have a guy who got to the White House by encouraging this kind of thinking, so it's kind of open season. |
bbqkink said @ 10:13pm GMT on 23rd Jun
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Headlessfriar said @ 9:04pm GMT on 23rd Jun
No gay or genderfluid characters? They had the trill in TNG, which a symbiote carries the personality from one host to the next as a big metaphor for gay / transgender people. In DS9, a trill was one of the main cast members.
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sanepride said @ 10:25pm GMT on 23rd Jun
As a matter of fact yes, there is a gay main character. And he can sing. All bases covered.
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DreamJournalingFS said @ 12:47am GMT on 24th Jun
"... the trolls will find it increasingly difficult to locate a safe space for their nativist fantasies ..."
I wouldn't be surprised to see the "Terra Prime" organization (from "ST: Enterprise") make an appearance in "Star Trek: Discovery" shouting their belligerent nativist slogans like "Make Earth great again!" and "Earth first!" |
cb361 said @ 8:48am GMT on 24th Jun
I think "Earth First!" was an anti-alien slogan in "Babylon 5"
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shiftace said @ 12:49am GMT on 24th Jun
It sounds like it is the perfect places for this kind of troll. They are getting all the attention they are craving. Good job the Newyorker. Keep feeding and feeding off of those trolls. It is not like anything actually newsworthy is happening.
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Dienes said @ 3:09am GMT on 24th Jun
I'm really excited for this. The original vision of Star Trek was for ti to show a future egalitarian society. Here's hoping we have a more competent female captain than Janeway.
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sanepride said @ 3:46am GMT on 24th Jun
Ditto here, trailer got me hopeful and intrigued, though judging from the comments in the previous post not everyone agrees. Problem with Voyager wasn't Janeway, she wasn't a bad captain, it's that the show was so badly written and executed. I really don't care that much about canon, or what the Klingons look like, just give me intelligently written, compelling stories and the characters will find their way. Go easy on the multi-episode story arcs please.
Really my only complaint is the airing only on CBS pay service, but I'm sure they'll be some way around that. |
Morris Forgot his Password said @ 12:01pm GMT on 24th Jun
Didn't Ryker have a hard-on for a (place proper noun HERE) from a planet of androgynous beings which caused a diplomatic row because (place proper noun HERE) was being persecuted for getting wet/hard for a masculine man?
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Ankylosaur said @ 12:42pm GMT on 24th Jun
Yes. "The Outcast". She identified as female, and others of her species that identified as gendered were persecuted by the androgynous majority, and so had to hide who they were. She is discovered and forced to undergo "therapy" that fixes her.
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Morris Forgot his Password said @ 3:07pm GMT on 24th Jun
Thanks
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George Takei responds.