Saturday, 24 February 2018

A lot of blacked out sections but here it is.

quote [ Correcting the record-The Russian investigation
Top Secret UNCLASSIFIED ]

Should make interesting talks on the Sunday news show.
[SFW] [politics] [+1 Informative]
[by bbqkink@10:13pmGMT]

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bbqkink said @ 2:33am GMT on 26th Feb [Score:1 laz0r]
hellboy said @ 2:48am GMT on 26th Feb
From his mouth to my dog's ears. I don't agree with Dean on everything but I still love him.
bbqkink said @ 2:50am GMT on 26th Feb
I wanted him to be president.
hellboy said[2] @ 2:52am GMT on 26th Feb
Would've been a great president. Would've driven us crazy sometimes, but it would've been worth it.

You know that Jed Bartlet was based on Dean, right?
norok said[1] @ 1:22am GMT on 25th Feb
I must admit...

the Democrats' OpEd was much better written.

Also, I was expecting commentary from you. Or is all this the same stuff you've been mulling over these last months?

I think a lot of stuff was very vague though... ostensibly because of "classified" reasons. Even the one thing that I myself can call a lie, the "email hacking" is non-specific to the Wikileaks or perhaps something else. I think that echos the tone of being rather non-specific through the whole memo.
bbqkink said[1] @ 1:45am GMT on 25th Feb
This is simple try to show the lies of the Nunes memo...nothing to see if you already knew how much bullshit the first one was. Steele is a top flight agent has a specialty in Moscow...attempts to smear him were doomed from the beginning.

It took too long to get it out to show how Trumped up (pun intended) the Nunes memo was the public's memory isn't that long. Most people don't even know about the recommendation to Justice from Grahm & Grassley...other than trying to smear somebody who sincerely tried to help the US that is the saddest part of all of this..I expected it from Grassley but not Grahm.

The only thing that will make this interesting is if after the Sunday news shows somebody leaves Trump alone and he Tweets this into a story. The real investigation is starting to get to the money laundering part...expect to hear from me again when that happens

Of Course Mueller could change all of this in a New York second...It drives me crazy that he doesn't leek....it shows integrity...but it is infuriating.

Here is a much better explanation than I can give

The Nunes memo’s core allegation is that the FBI and Department of Justice misled at least one federal judge on a Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Act (FISA) court during the Trump-Russia investigation.

In essence, Nunes alleges that the FBI used opposition research put together by a Democratic political operative to go after the Trump campaign without disclosing that clear conflict of interest to the court. This was, according to Nunes, “a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses related to the FISA process.”

In the key line, the application explicitly notes that “the FBI speculates” that Steele had been hired to find “information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign.”

That’s it. That’s the ballgame. The FBI clearly states right there in the FISA application that they believe Steele was hired to find dirt on Trump. Since the core contention of the Nunes memo is that the FBI didn’t do that, Nunes’s entire argument falls apart.

There’s more in the Schiff memo that’s important than just that one devastating point.The key question in an application like this isn’t whether the source liked the target; it’s whether the specific claims they’re making are credible. And the Schiff memo points out that the FBI had independent reasons to believe that Steele’s arguments were credible.

But nonetheless, it’s incredibly important. It suggests that Steele’s information was born out by the FBI’s own work. Citing him wasn’t some kind of intelligence malpractice, or anti-Trump bias, but rather the result of a source who has a track record of providing relevant, correct intelligence.



The Democratic rebuttal to the Nunes memo tears it apart
Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff brought receipts.
bbqkink said @ 1:59am GMT on 25th Feb
Addendum;

Because Muller doesn't leak the story last week about Gates first had him pleading out got some news outlets well over their skies...It turns out he lied after his Queen for a day....then came more charges and then a new plea. Nobody could figure it out and most still aren't talking about it because they would have to explain how they got the story wrong.
bbqkink said[1] @ 2:45am GMT on 25th Feb
And I have no idea what

Even the one thing that I myself can call a lie, the "email hacking" is non-specific to the Wikileaks or perhaps something else

means.

In March 2016, the personal Gmail account of John Podesta, a former White House chief of staff and the chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 U.S. presidential campaign, was compromised in a data breach, and a collection of his emails, many of which were work-related, were stolen. Cybersecurity researchers as well as the United States government attributed responsibility for the breach, which was accomplished via a spear-phishing attack, to the hacking group Fancy Bear, allegedly affiliated with Russian intelligence services.[1]

Some or all of the Podesta emails were subsequently obtained by WikiLeaks,
bbqkink said @ 4:12am GMT on 25th Feb
Not at all sure about any of this. I wish you all could tell me what this is all about.

Fighting fake news on Facebook: time to make users pay?
HoZay said @ 6:53am GMT on 25th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
It's just a waste of space, somebody giving business advice to facebook, which has no intention of reforming itself.
hellboy said[1] @ 8:02pm GMT on 25th Feb
...considering that their whole business model is based on being a bad actor.

Why Facebook won't ever change
HoZay said[1] @ 9:18pm GMT on 25th Feb
It's just amazing that facebook can claim they didn't know they were helping to subvert the political discourse, when knowing how to manipulate their users is kind of job one.
Google, too. They pretend that shitheels posting crisis actor bullshit on Youtube is something they can maybe track, and eventually strike the content, but they just can't figure out how to filter content, or prevent bad actors from posting slander. And Twitter, also helpless to police content or users. Who could guess someone's going to deliberately abuse their innocent platform?
hellboy said @ 3:02am GMT on 26th Feb
bbqkink said @ 5:03am GMT on 25th Feb
This read like a beg for a pardon...understandable as it is only way to to spend the rest of his life in prison and the loss of everything he and most likley his family owns

Schiff: Manafort love letter to Trump: Please give me a pardon
bbqkink said @ 5:12am GMT on 25th Feb
I also keep hearing rumblings about this guy as part of the Russian investigation.

Why Dana Rohrabacher's name keeps coming up in the Russia investigation

Who knows what's next.
Fish said[1] @ 10:21pm GMT on 24th Feb [Score:-4 Boring]
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Fish said[1] @ 10:27pm GMT on 24th Feb [Score:-5 Boring]
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Taxman said @ 11:04pm GMT on 24th Feb [Score:2]
hellboy said @ 1:05am GMT on 25th Feb
Don't encourage him.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:58am GMT on 25th Feb
He can't help himself.
Taxman said @ 3:59am GMT on 25th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
I can't reply, I can't troll the trolls... sometimes I feel like you just don't love me anymore. :_(
bbqkink said @ 4:29am GMT on 25th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
I general try even though I know they are trolls and every now and then you will get a conversation but most of the time it's bumper sticker talking points that insult instead of inform or even disagree...it's not like if you don't feed them they will go away.
hellboy said @ 8:08pm GMT on 25th Feb
norok is not a troll. Numbers occasionally has a legitimate point, so there's a real human being there. This shitheel is not worth responding to. Basic rule of life: don't reward bad behavior.
C18H27NO3 said[2] @ 6:34pm GMT on 26th Feb
And yet that's exactly what this country has done by electing dumpster. That concept falls on deaf ears. Or willfully ignorant ones.

And there are varying degrees of troll. Some on the "lighter" end of the spectrum, while others on the more heavy side, but both have their ideology in the exact same place using the exact same techniques. Double standards, false equivalencies, logical phallacies, hyperbole, and red herrings.
rylex said @ 11:11pm GMT on 24th Feb
It's laughable how you decry the so called "MSM" as being fake news, while
simultaneously exhibiting unquestioning belief of anything presented by the white house.
hellboy said @ 1:04am GMT on 25th Feb
If you reply to this shithead again you're going to get downmodded too.
arrowhen said @ 2:31am GMT on 25th Feb [Score:0 Original]
"Don't feed the trolls" is a flavor of troll chow.
hellboy said @ 7:14pm GMT on 25th Feb
Which is why I'm not going to repeat myself.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:56pm GMT on 26th Feb
I'm done telling people not to feed the trolls. Only a few people here do it, and they refuse to learn. I'm just going to scroll past it all from now on.
Fish said @ 11:49pm GMT on 24th Feb [Score:-5 Boring]
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