Sunday, 25 February 2018

Lazyweb Calling

quote [ The common theme of all Lazyweb requests is a tacit acknowledgement that none of us is as dumb as all of us. ]

Stumbled upon this recently – a quite appealing description.

Here's a more technical explanation bringing up the open source software –
Given Enough Eyeballs, Are Features Shallow Too?:

Like debugging, the success of the LazyWeb is related at least in part to the quality of the descriptions. A feature, schema, or application described in enough detail can give the right developer (usually someone thinking about the same problem) a clear idea of how to code it quickly.
[SFW] [science & technology] [+5 Interesting]
[by Paracetamol@8:03pmGMT]

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arrowhen said @ 9:19pm GMT on 25th Feb [Score:2]
Assuming you get an answer, once web crawlers find and index your problem, that question and answer is part of the fabric of the web and can potentially help any future travellers as well.

That's an unnecessarily optimistic assumption. Even if you don't get an answer your question and the thread full of unhelpful replies you get still becomes part of the fabric of the web, and if you ask it in a popular enough place your question plus 40 pages of "lrn 2 google nub!" will be the #1 search result that future travelers will have to navigate past on their way to finding the answer.
JWWargo said[1] @ 11:19pm GMT on 25th Feb
Thus his final qualifying statement: Done right, Lazyweb is a part of the net public good.
(Edit: never mind, he bolded the entire sentence.)
JWWargo said @ 10:54pm GMT on 25th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
Finally, a name I can attach to it! So often I see people asking questions on FB that I find the answer to on the first page of Google results.

Also, is "Google it" the new RTFM?
Hugh E. said @ 1:34am GMT on 26th Feb
Nah, think of "Google it" as like back in the old days when someone would ask a person, "May I trouble you for the time?", and instead of that person lifting up his wrist to tell, they used to shout, "Go look at a fucking clock you fucking lazy shit!" Ah, good times those were.

I remember reading somewhere, "some people seem way too eager to abandon the semblance of a conversation."
arrowhen said @ 2:03am GMT on 26th Feb
It's more like when someone asked you what time it was in an enormous clock museum filled with basically every clock in the world. If you didn't shout they'd never hear you over the ticking of all the clocks they were ignoring.
takajou said @ 5:33am GMT on 27th Feb [Score:2]
"A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure." - Segal's Law
Bruceski said @ 9:44pm GMT on 25th Feb
I'm a fan of doing one's own research, but it's very easy to run into issues where you know the problem but not the jargon that would make a solution easy, and a lot of stuff that's obvious in hindsight is impenetrable before learning it. Also some people seem way too eager to abandon the semblance of a conversation. If somebody posts using a term I don't recognize I'm probably going to say "what's that" rather than go look it up because that's what people do when talking to each other.
lilmookieesquire said @ 10:49pm GMT on 25th Feb
Can someone upmod this post? Thanks.
Hugh E. said @ 1:21am GMT on 26th Feb
I would but Paracetamol didn't post the article in the extended, so can you tell me what it's about?
JWWargo said @ 2:08am GMT on 26th Feb
It's a short read:

Reveal
It's hard to pin down the exact etymology of the word Lazyweb, but it seems to have one primary meaning:

Asking a question of an internet audience in the hopes that they will be able to find a solution that you were too lazy or inexperienced to find yourself.
The word is attributed to old-school internet ultrageek jwz, which I could totally believe. Or it might have been designer Matt Jones. It can also have a more specific meaning in the context of writing code, as Clay Shirky notes.

Waiting for someone else on the internet to write/build/design what you were thinking of.
Describing something in the hopes that someone else on the internet will write/build/design it.
Of course, this kind of feature daydreaming can have amusing results.

The common theme of all Lazyweb requests is a tacit acknowledgement that none of us is as dumb as all of us.

I don't mind Lazyweb requests, within reason. Contrary to popular belief, there is such a thing as a stupid question. It's asked by people who failed to do even the most basic kind of research on their question before they asked. I'm not expecting everyone to read a 32 page document prior to asking any questions, but at least cover the basics before casually deciding to make your problem everyone's problem.

There's nothing wrong with harnessing the collective power of the internet to solve a problem you tried-- and failed-- to solve yourself. Assuming you get an answer, once web crawlers find and index your problem, that question and answer is part of the fabric of the web and can potentially help any future travellers as well. Done right, Lazyweb is a part of the net public good.
Hugh E. said @ 2:47am GMT on 26th Feb [Score:1 Funsightful]


Nice.
7 said @ 12:30am GMT on 26th Feb
Another aspect of this is the question asked in order to make a statement, as opposed to the question asked in search of an answer. People that are too lazy (or incompetent) to compose a statement will ask a question, knowing someone will reply with the statement they wish they could have made. Reddit’s Out-of-the-Loop https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/ is a good example of this.

I love that when I clicked on that “How To Ask Questions The Smart Way”, and then clicked on NoScript to allow scripts to run, the appearance didn’t change at all. © 2001
Paracetamol said @ 5:06am GMT on 26th Feb
It should be noted that the guy writing that post is the lead dev behind Stack Overflow.

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